Takashi Miike
11:28 Mon Dec 11
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gonzo has mentioned it a few times, he gets information directly from whetstone, who in turn gets information directly from that poison dwarf cunt that runs the club. don't believe a word of it, it's more controlling of the situation by sullivan. he's never getting rid of moyes before the end of the season as he's the buffer between the fans and him
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southbankbornnbred
11:24 Mon Dec 11
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That was a fucking disaster yesterday.
No idea to what extent the viruses and injuries played a part - hard to tell if that was some Moyes kidology and managing expectations in his usual clumsy way.
But, let's be really blunt, folks: Moyes is here until the end of the season - like him or lump him. His contract runs out then, and the uninspiring and predictable owner will make his decision on a new contract towards the end of this season depending on how we're doing (most likely in Europe, as Moyes seems to have a free pass in the league this season for whatever reason).
I hate the football. It is dull beyond compare. And yesterday was a clusterfuck. But having won us a trophy last season, and being comfortably mid table and still in Europe this season, he will be here until the end. We all know it, deep down.
I've sort of given up on the "Moyes Out" thing, as the reality is it will all be decided next summer when he will be out of contract.
Gut feeling: The Scotland job will be up for grabs after the Euros next summer and I think Moyes might belatedly try his hand if Clarke moves back into club management...
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Manuel
11:23 Mon Dec 11
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Some of the comments he comes are with are utterly disgraceful, don't know how true it is but Gonzo has just put a vid out stating that the board are very pissed off with his recent comments/excuses. A fraud indeed.
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Takashi Miike
11:14 Mon Dec 11
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"I've seen comments on Facebook like
Careful what you wish for
We're WestHam we need to manage expectations"
some decent football. that's the only fucking expectation, it's beyond his negative brain. have a watch of his post match interview. "Two draws would have been great, so there points is a good return. The squad's been hit by a virus" he then brings on one of those players at halftime. a scottish fraud
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Willtell
11:14 Mon Dec 11
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We are paying the price for Moyes very bad recruitment of players. The board brought Steidten in to correct that.
Now we are paying the price for Moyes inability to work with a squad. Our reserve players aren't getting game time because Moyes can't cope with changes.
Now we are also paying the price for Moyes inability to coach forwards. I'm sure he knows his low block system backwards but fuck all else.
I watch other teams and their passing ability and ball retention is much than we ever show. Our players have no patterns except what the likes of Emerson and Paqueta obviously work out between themselves.
I'm amazed that Moyes is still here after all the fuck ups he has cost the club. Apparently Moyes has spent around £450m which compares to Fulham's which can't be more than loose change in comparison. The difference being they have a forward thinking coach...
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fraser
11:04 Mon Dec 11
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I've seen comments on Facebook like
Careful what you wish for
We're WestHam we need to manage expectations
It's not Moyes fault if all the players are under performing
Then there's cunts on here saying we're wanking over it, happy that we lost. Yeah cause it's such an easy mistake to make that those of us that are fuming about it are really happy as we're pissed off and moaning because what we really want is for our team to embarrass us... But we're just ungrateful cunts because we played well 2 years ago.
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Mike Oxsaw
10:05 Mon Dec 11
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Such a result has been coming a long, long time.
Our only saving grace is that it wasn't against one of the media darlings.
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GBHammer63
9:39 Mon Dec 11
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Agree Manuel, Moyes clearly doesn’t trust the squad, the same squad that he’s spent so much time and money assembling.
He blames fixture congestion and a bug for the absolute thrashing whereas Steve Cooper said after their defeat against Fulham it was his fault, Moyes has no self awareness and absolute zero man management skills.
Honestly if he goes and the new/stand in manager just said “fresh start boys, play for your places” I believe it would be like signing 11 new players.
He’s a cancer, he’s sucked the life out of every member of the team and every one (bar the deluded ) of the support.
But he’s Sullivans shit deflector.
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Nagel
9:29 Mon Dec 11
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I think we've played worse in several games this season, and the opposition team have often played better as well. Yet somehow 5-0 wasn't really an unfair scoreline, which probably shows how lucky we've been with results so far.
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Manuel
4:27 Mon Dec 11
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With all these games coming up I see trouble ahead, reason being Moyes clearly doesn't trust his back up/squad players. After Cresswell and Fornals dire showings yesterday he won't want to pick them again, Dinos and Oggie look dodgy, he doesn't want to play the likes of Cornet, Johnson, Mubama, Tiro, even Benny has faded away. So what is going to happen now is he will continue to flog his first eleven to death and we will witness more results like yesterday, or he will have to reluctantly use his back up players who he doesn't rate, which will again result in more results like yesterday. So either way, it's not looking good.
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Jasnik
2:53 Mon Dec 11
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What annoys me the most is we are three nil down at half time and his idea is to go more defensive.
He said
"Even at half-time, I said 'we’re not going to concede any more goals, if we’re going to lose we’re not going to lose by any more'."
lose any more!!!!!..... Joke.
At least show the away support some fight, nope he doubles down on defense so we only concede 3 ???
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easthammer
2:39 Mon Dec 11
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Where to start?
So poor, not just tactically but also individually.
I hope we bounce back Thursday.
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Pagey
1:59 Mon Dec 11
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In all honesty, yes. Respect. For winning a trophy and for given us THREE consecutive seasons in Europe.
I can’t stand Moyes by the way, but I do respect what he has done for us. It hasn’t all been shit and dull. Some of the Europa League games were incredible.
So yeah, respect.
You’re right though, he is getting paid to do his job. Most professional managers get paid to do their job. Plus, in this day and age, most teams are spending a fortune.
We’re all different though, so I’ll respect everyone’s opinion.
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Sir Alf
1:38 Mon Dec 11
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U8s. ? That really would be a youth policy
U18s even
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Sir Alf
1:37 Mon Dec 11
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We got to tie recruitment into a philosophy or way of playing through all teams U-8s, 21s included. That is part of being able to bring youth thru as they just carry on playing the ash they always have. There’s a place for a low block system but not every game. We need pace and movement and better players at RWB, a box to box midfielder with pace and technique , someone else who can play CDM when Alvarez is out or needs a rest ( Downes or someone else) a wide left player ( cornet has had less than 100 minutes thus season and no starts unless there was one in Europe). He may not be up to it but the little we’ve seen he can control it and pass it better than Benny, Soucek and a couple of others and he has a bit of pace. It’s both mystifying and bizarre he’s not given a look in. This seasons Downes and not part of Moyes favs at all. We need a central striker above all else.
Potts u21s don’t seem to play anything like the first team so there’s no continuity. And Steidten recruitment needs to tie to the way we want to play. Did we buy Kudus and Alvarez, used to Ajax pass and move, to play a low block countering system?
Steidten remains the key. Does he see the longer term problem with Moyes or us he like Sullivan unwilling to risk going with a different approach, manager to really try and progress? He’s not had Sullivan’s experience with Pellegrini so hopefully less about getting the proverbial “safe pair of hands”
next summer we find out hopefully. Steidten is waging his time with data driven recruitment if Moyes is at the helm. May as well go back to Sullys favoured agents
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bruuuno
1:17 Mon Dec 11
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I AM FUMING BLAD
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daveyg
1:13 Mon Dec 11
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KD
That was exactly my thoughts.
It's like he's put Mubama on to state he's not that good.
Half time may have been better but not much.
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daveyg
1:05 Mon Dec 11
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threesixty
Moyes is the most negative manager I've seen.
You're comments are truw expect we have only played 4 games more than Fulham, a mighty 4. Fulham started the Caraboa Cup a round earlier than us . Spurs lost in the 2nd rd. Thus 6 games.
It's not that many really 4. Not anywhere the 10 mentioned a Moyes myth. He puts this out all the time.
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Keep dreaming
1:04 Mon Dec 11
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Pagey, respect? Is that's what's it all about? Is that why I receive dogs abuse on here, for not showing any respect?
Is he managing WHU for free, or is his wages sent to charity or what? Respect my arse.
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Takashi Miike
1:02 Mon Dec 11
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*given*
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Keep dreaming
1:01 Mon Dec 11
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I kind off feel Moyes today did what BFS used to do.
After 4 down, he goes to a back 5, takes off Kudus and subs in Mubama.
I mean, poor fucking kid. Was that a proud moment to Moyes, to show us all that Mubama isn't the answer?
Well fuck me, what a cunt of a manager does that.
But captain Soucek stays on, it's madness.
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